Are you running any external pedals with your Amplifire?

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  1. NelsonP

    NelsonP Senior Member

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    If so, what are you running and why?

    I have a Boss RC3 looper, because there isn't one on Amplifire.

    So what about you?
     
  2. Matt

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    Currently envelope, compressor, Tumnus, and TS mini in front, Trio and looper after, nothing in the effects loop at the moment.
     
  3. JoeInOttawa

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    TC Spark mini, because I like the simplicity of a single, dedicated button for boost where my foot can find it without my eyes. Plus, it really sounds good.
     
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    I run all the pedals that I use with my Louis Electric Tweed Deluxe clone. AMT Krusher Compressor, Toadworks Texas Flood, Rivera Blues Shaman, Mad Professor Big Tweedy before the amp/AF3. After I have a TC Hall of Fame Reverb, Roland Dimensional Expander and a Rocktron Intellifex for detuning. The AF3 is my workhorse pratice amp and the Louis Electric is my Sunday Go To Meeting amp. I don't mean that as I play in a chuch. It has very expensive tubes in it and I want them to last. Of course with all the amp models, I don't use the drive pedals as much as I do with the amp, that is until the Clean 65 model became available. It's a great pedal platform.
     
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    Yes.

    Before the AFB: whatever gain pedal I'm feeling happier with at any given point in time (DOD Carcosa, EHX Green Russian Big Muff, EHX Soul Food, TCElectronic Dark Matter, a RAT clone, etc.); a TC Electronic Hypergravity compressor; Digitech Freqout; Tone City Summer Orange phaser; Donner Jet Convolution (Mooer ElecLady) flanger; TC Electronic 3rd Dimension chorus.

    After the AFB: Boss FV500L volume pedal; a few delay / reverb pedals, mostly TC Electronic Flashback and Hall of Fame; a Digitech JamMan Solo XT looper.

    So whatever I feel like throwing at it at any given point in time. ... and the AFB just responds gloriously to all of them.

    My reason? The AFB is brilliant as a single channel amp modeler with a switchable boost. In it's current form, it's also very usable as a dual channel amp modeler with independent switchable boosts. So it makes more sense for my usage to stick to the two channel amp thing and get the other colors and textures from pedals, which I happen to love.

    And if at any particular point in time I need something completely different, usually some switch flicking gets me there quite quickly anyway...
     
  6. David-R

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    Right now, with AA6 I'm running 2 pedals in the effects loop:

    1. Xotic EP Booster v2 as an always on tone enhancer
    2. Wampler Ethereal because I like it!
     
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    On my AA3 I run guitar into...
    an MVP volume pedal then into...
    an EP Booster (always on, just like David-R) then into...
    a Jamman looper (just for fun) then into the AA3.
    I run a Zoom 70CDR in the loop to have a dotted eighth type delay when needed and also for ambient type swells, since the pitch block doesn’t work on the AA3.
     
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    I run xotic compressor and tumnus always in the loop (which is set to the 1 position). I then move the internal compressor to post and use it for a solo boost. Works great
     
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    I use a Dunlop expression pedal, CryBaby mini, a Ditto Looper, and a Wampler EQuator (as a global EQ connected between the AA and the return of my amp) :)
     
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    Mine goes: Analogman Sunface > OCD > Timmy > Amplifire, then an Eventide H9 in the loop.

    That gets me pretty much everything.
     
  11. NelsonP

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    Ok, so I'm currently building a small effects board to run alongside my Amplifire. Trying to figure out the best way to set this up is giving me headaches.

    I think the path will be :
    Guitar > EP Booster > EHX Soul Food > Amplifire input > Amplifire FX send (position 4 or 5) > TC HOF2 reverb > Boss RC3 looper

    Since I am using the loop for external effects I can no longer use it for Aux in duties. But the Boss RC3 has it's own aux in, which I am hoping that I will be able to use to attach my phone to play in backing tracks etc.

    Any thoughts from the wise experienced on my suggested signal path?
     
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    I run a Line 6 HX Stomp in 4CM with AA3.

    Before HX Stomp: TC Polytune Mini, Foxx Fuzz, EHX Soul Food
    Between HX Stomp and AA3: Digitech Freqout, EHX Freeze, TC Mimiq
     
  13. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member

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    I would take the looper out of the loop and put it after the Amplifire if you can. That way the backing track won’t all go through the cab sim.
     
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    NelsonP Senior Member

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    Interesting idea. Wouldn't the outputs be too hot though?

    I can also play the backing track into my frfr using the aux input on that. But that won't work too well if I'm using headphones late in the evening!
     
  15. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member

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    Most loopers are designed to go at the end of the pedal board and accept fairly hot signals, but you always have the level knob on the Amplifire plus the level control in the cab block to dial it back as far as you want.

    For headphone use, if you have a recording interface, I connect the Amplifire or the output from the looper (end of chain) into the interface and use the headphone monitor to hear both whatever the computer is playing undistorted and the guitar.
     
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    So I've started building this:
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    The idea is that it complements the internal effects in the Amplifire.
    • The pitch fork should give me better polyphonic tracking than the internal pitch block (Amplifire 3 owners take note!)
    • The Soul food gives me another flavour of boost that is more organic and 'transparent' than the internal drives. It sounds great straight into the Amplifire input. Also gives allows me stack this with the internal boosts (as does the EP boost). EP boost may end up being an always on - let's see.
    • HOF2 provides more reverb options - and the ability to modulte using the MASH function without needing another expression pedal.
    • Loop station provides looping capability.
    Planned signal path is:
    Guitar> Pitch fork > Soul food > EP boost > Amplfire input > Amplifire send > HOF2 > Boss RC3 > Amplifire return
    Amplfire loop probably in position 5

    Will report back once I've built it.
     
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    NelsonP Senior Member

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    OK, so it is built.

    Signal path is Guitar> Pitch fork > Soul food > EP boost > Amplfire input > Amplifire send > HOF2 > Boss RC3 > Amplifire return

    The boosts are really useful for either thickening up the basic tone (EP booster) or pushing the 'amps' a little harder.
    The Soul food seems to work best with low gain amps like the 65 twin or Deluxe, gain turned down. On higher gain amps it pushes the gain too far.
    It's nice to have these alongside the internal boosts as they offer something quite different. It also allows for boost stacking (although that gets very gainy very quickly).

    The pitchfork is way ahead of the internal pitch shift block for the polyphonic stuff and it tracks a bit better for downtuning, with less artifacts. It is a fussy bugger about power supplies though and does not want to share with anything else, so I ended up getting an isolated power supply (Truetone CS6). For whammy there's not much in it so I'll probably continue to use the internal block for that.

    The HOF2 offers a much broader variety of reverbs and lovely quality. I still have a short spring reverb on all of my patches, but will use the HOF2 fo the bigger / more shoegazy reverb effects.

    The looper is, well, a looper. It's pretty easy to use, doesn't colour the tone or add noise. It also can add basic rhythms and has an aux in, which is handy since I am now using the effects loop for, er, effects. Only issue with that is that it still goes through the reverb and cab blocks so backing tracks get pretty muddy (I wish there was a dedicated Aux in on the Amplifire itself).

    Overall these pedals are a great complement to the Amplifire effects - which was the intention. They sound great, and the Amplfire takes them very well, with minimal tone suck. I managed to source many of them second hand, but if I had been buying them new then I could have bought another Amplifire 12 for similar money(!). This pedal game is not cheap.


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    Jace Nuzback Senior Member

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    Very cool!
    Jace
     
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    I was running a huge Novo 32 pedal board with my AA12 but I've recent;y gone back to the inbuilt effects + a Digitech drop on my backup board with a MXR six band EQ added in front for my main live board too. I also tend to run an AMT EXP 50 to balance patch levels with a 10% volume sweep.
     
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    Wow that's quite a lot pedals along side the HX FX. I would have thought it would be able to replace all of those. What are you using the hxfx for?
     
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