Boost stacking

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  1. FullHouse

    FullHouse Active Member

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    Hi,

    How about making the 'PRE' and 'BST' Blocks, 'Boost 1 & 2' to allow us to stack boost options other than just adding gain via the PRE block. Loosing the PRE should not be too much of a problem for users when there are 3 PQ blocks.

    A few more (not Boss) OD and Dist pedals would also go down well.
     
  2. bioboy

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    boost has 3 positions try to move the boost effect before the pre section (if you boost an od you will increase gain but if you boost with pre after the od you will increase the volume by keeping the od "creaming" sound) ;)
     
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    What the fellow is trying to say is that we would be able to set two dirt pedals in series, cascading them, for example a fuzz and ts..Or a Rat an a Bender... ;-)
     
  4. Guitar1969

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    Yeah, what he is asking is being able to use more than one instance of a block (In this case the Boost Block), or at least in the Boost Block have an option to run 2 of the boosts in series, especially since one of the options is a Clean Boost.

    I think it is a waste for Atomic to have added the Clean Boost into the Boost block when it can be accomplished with a Gain only PEQ - Due to the limitations I can't afford to waste my boost block on the clean boost....
     
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    this is the point why suggest to use a pre block as clean boost after od block ;) is like to use a tube screamer with no drive and full level after your favorite distortion or overdrive or fuzz pedal...
     
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    I've been running a Boss Blues Driver into the AF to be able to stack boosts. I would like more than one boost blocks in the unit as well to eliminate having to use the Boss.
     
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    assuming you use the boss od as clean boost to increase gain of the AA od ,you will find a same solution (or better because you will avoid the noise from external box) using a pre-eq before the od setted with Gain-only in the effect type dropdown menu (same as the boss BD setted as clean boost 0 gain full level)
    the gain structure should be in my opinion as follow:
    1) primary gain stage = ampli gain (if gain is not satisfactory change the amp not the pedal...)
    2) gain boost = front-od to push the amp gain (the AA internal TS is perfect to fit these needs with 0 gain full level,take a look at Mr Ola Englund Amplifire video on youtube,Superb metal tone)
    3) post gain = clean boost (or pushed pre-q) to increase gain volume without modify the amp gain structure...
     
  8. Chris Hayden

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    I will have to try your recommendation. I usually set my amp model for pretty clean, then use the BD as a slightly dirty tone and use the internal Overdrive or TS for more grit. If I need a bit more breakup I'll use both the BD and TS/OD together. Mind you, I'm not a metal player more of a classic rock guy but I like to play some balls out Marshall Humble Pie, Faces, Bad Company, Savoy Brown from time to time but that's about as heavy as I get.
     
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    Chris when I have a minute I will share with you one of my favorite clean to overdrive preset (with fuzz and pre-eq boost) I trust that is something u can use to explore this way , AA is an outstanding machine the problem is to find the right mix between effects amp and IR ;)
     
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    I do it all the time, long before they added the Clean Boost, into the Boost block. I also run an OCD Fulltone in front of the AF, so 3 stages of gain if needed, but the onboard Overdrives do not respond the same to an analog pedal in front of the AF, as 2 analog pedals would at least for my use, and experience.
     
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    I have an OCD too but I never could coax a satisfying tone out of it into AF. I also tried an MXR Distortion '78 in front but the Blues Driver seemed to work best for my needs.

    Do use the OCD in HP or LP setting?
     
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    The clean boost actually subtly shelves off some bass, and tone control is quite useful. So it's not completely the same as an EQ block with increased gain, but close.
     
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    But if you wanted to go that you could actually still use the PEQ with one of the other settings, other than gain only, and set the freq boost, Q value, etc. I agree though that the clean boost option in the Boost block is easy to adjust.

    What confuses me about the new Clean Boost, is how to use the Gain and Volume knobs. What is the difference, as most clean boosts would not have two knobs for this, just one or the other. Also, curious what preamp Studio devil may have modeled this after, such as an Xotic EP boost etc.....
     
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    I've no idea if there's any difference between drive and level. Sounds identical to me.

    I would REALLY like a boost that can go from 100% clean boost at 0 drive, to mild overdrive at 100.
     
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    Hi, I,ve got a TC Electronics Spark Booster that I use with my AA. This thing has level, gain, bass and treble as well as a 3 way switch for different tone shaping. the gain adds a bit of grit to the tone, which works well really well at giving you different option than you can get from either a normal boost or OD pedal.
     
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    Spot on Guitar1969! It is about gain stacking (see vid by That Pedal Show) but it would also be nice to have the option to select different OD/Distortion pedals whilst in the same patch.
     
  17. Meiannatee

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    I have a Mad Prof Sweet Honey clone that works well too. Would be nice if I don't have to bring it along. When taking public transport, every pound/gram matters.

    Do you guys find the selection of boosts lacking? If so, more of the same thing would not help us get the tones in our heads, although it maybe useful for switching.
     
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    Absolutely, the selection of OD and distortion pedals is poor, I hope Studio Devil/Atomic are going to put this right!
     
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    Better selection of boosts/od's/distortions and 2 boost/od blocks for stacking would be awesome!
     

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