Celestion announced the F12-X200

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  1. Jace Nuzback

    Jace Nuzback Senior Member

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    Just a reminder that you an use the FX returns in AUX IN mode for this purpose.
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    True! Thank you for reminding me :p
    Have seen this before but completely forgot about it...

    Just tested it with my smartphone, the F12-X200 performs superb with music+guitar :)
     
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    gotta go to look out
     
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    Another update.
    Last week took it to rehersal, it wasn't so good...
    At high volume, it sounds "boxy" compared to my cabinet. As if the speaker is put in a box, don't know how else to describe it.
    Band members were not impressed and asked me to bring my cabinet again next rehearsal.

    I guess I wanted to like it more than I should because of all the effort and money put into it.
    It's still a great speaker and certainly usable as FRFR, but might have to put it in a bigger cabinet.
    At this point however, I'm done experimenting.

    Will probably keep it for home so I can leave my cabinet at our rehearsal place.
     
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    Jace Nuzback Senior Member

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    Thanks for the update.
    Jace
     
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    Is it in a closed back cab? What amp? I have one in an open back 1x12 and it sounds great loud, as long as I have enough juice powering it.

    Keep in mind that it is not anywhere near as efficient as a standard guitar speaker, so you will need significantly more juice from the power amp to drive it at louder volumes. Even then, since a single speaker is only rated to handle 200w, you may need multiples depending on your definition of loud.
     
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    Another update! I downloaded the cab plan from the Celestion site and built a cab myself for the F12-X200.
    Sounded good at home, but as I know now, that's no guarantee that it will cut it at live volume...
    But I took it to rehearsal two days ago and it delivers !
    Plenty loud, NICE tone and you would not say it's only a 1x12.
    I left my 212 at the rehearsal room and am keeping this one for at home and for gigs.

    There is a minidsp plate amplifier in the back in a separate compartment, which allows for a 45 degree tilt.
    For those interested, you can build this cabinet for 100€ or so, the plate amplifier is the PWR-ICE125 and it was 369€, the speaker was 130€.
    This one has a built-in DSP so I'm now looking for someone who can measure the output response of the speaker so we can flatten the response curve.

    So you don't do this to get a cheap solution, but it is a nice build project and it feels good to play through something home made :D
    And it doubles nicely as a party speaker!
     

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    I have purchased the Fremen preset pack and have used/tweaked some of them to replace some of my own presets.
    Replaced the CAB IR with the Celestion Redbacks 412 cab.

    Yesterday I was at rehersal again, I left my FRFR (see above) at home and used my physical 2x12 cab with Redbacks without cab simulation.
    All patches translate without a problem to the physical cab and 95% sound the same.
    No more hauling cabinets back and forth :)

    If we have a gig, I plan to use my FRFR cab for monitoring and go direct to PA also from the Amplifire.

    On to the next project now!
    Want to re-paint my Ibanez 540S LTD and put some EMG's in there.
    But I'll need to sell my 7-string first to pay for this and a few other things.

    Anyone interested in an Ibanez RGD7UC in mint condition ? ;)
     
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    My turn to update...

    In the interim of waiting for Celestion to finally get worldwide distro, I bought a Tech 21 Deuce Deluxe. I've been gigging with it and am not unhappy with it -- in fact, the controls on it make it a very easy solution to dial in -- but, since the Deuce is almost exactly the same specs as the recommended box fomr Celestion (volume, ports), l I've ordered an F12 to install in the Deuce.

    Should be here tomorrow.
     
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    Let us know how it goes!
    You're not 100% happy with the original speaker of the Deuce ?
     
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    I'm never 100% happy -- I'm a guitarist!
    :)
    The Deuce is a great solution and it works really, really well for me. But I played it back to back with an F12 in a shop here in town, and I liked that a lot, too. Different than the original Deuce drivers, though I'm not sure I'd say better or worse. A bit less flat-response, a bit more of a Celestion feel. So I want to give it a try long term, see where it goes. I'll be storing the standard drivers, though, because I can see where the F12 might get to be tiring to listen to. But I wanted to give it a real-world go.

    The biggest challenge for me is going to be, which one sounds more like my PA, because I like to tune small first, and then bring in the PA to tweak.
     

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