Discussion in 'Atomic News' started by Atomic Amps, Feb 9, 2018.
He’s off today
looks like atomic has abandoned the amplifire software. maybe they are working on a new device
No new info to share at this time.
But I wanted you to know that I had seen the message.
Is this the same as "I can neither confirm nor deny your statement"?
Wishful thinking there's something new to be announced....
and here we go again
Any update - almost another 2 months have passed without even a maintenance release?
Are the latest plate and cavern reverbs going to be available for AFB?
Should we expect any updates for AFB?
It has been quite a while unless I missed it.
Those reverbs are in the current AFB firmware.
As are the Clean 65 and SV Tee amp models.
I don't have an ETA for a future firmware update.
You said this in June - here we are at the start of September with (still) no idea when even a maintenance release might be forthcoming to fix known and acknowledged issues. I love my AA6, but this kind of software support cycle, by any and all standards of recent IT support, is sub-par. It's also worrying to see the multiple folks on the FB users page talking about their units in for repair for months (in one case 5 months and no word yet). Again, not trying to bust chops here, but there are red flags going up in multiple places concerning AA support capacity and attention.
i dont know if atomic is dead as a company but it sure is in a coma. this winter and specifically namm 2021 (and whether they present anything at all there) will mark it for me on whether i continue to treat the amplifire as a viable product or just a very good modeler that i have but cant depend on any more and i should go towards something like an fm3 for my main unit.
I did not get what you mean really. I use AFB and it is still the best option I think. Only viable competitor could be Strymon Iridium but It is not such a good option and it is more expensive. Strymon has great delays and reverbs so they have good name. That is why Iridium became popular. They did copy AFB though. I only use one amp, and I use AFB when I cannot bring my amp and still get compliments. When was the last time Strymon updated their products Firmware? I understand you feel better if you get frequent updates and you think that is todays modern approach. However, you still have to play better and develop your abilities as a musician. Honestly, I think If you are good, you could sound great thru anything. I know this does not mean products should not go on to improve and companies should not better themselves. It is just trying something new and constantly updating your tone does not bring happiness and help you improve. It usually steals from you music time. It is just my opinion as a 53 year old veteran musician. If you do not like what I am suggesting please disregard. Thanks for reading If you see this.
the iridium was very recently released and it's not the same thing as the amplifire modelers. the AFB is a slimmed down version of the aa3 (now AA6/12) which are the real versions of the product. a comparison between the two and whether strymon updates such a small unit is pointless. the amplifire NEEDS updating even if it is only for maintenance and basic features that are requested by the community for over a year now. all the other pointless arguments about how one plays have nothing to do with the issue. also the same goes for you (if you dont like me or others asking for updates you can disregard and you can always stick to old firmware if you think it will somehow "improve your tone" and "make you better") the fact of the matter is the company shows no or few signs of life for a long time when the competition keeps their products alive with more add-ons via software and regular maintenance. and how long before service and support falls apart too when the company shrinks down? and it's disappointing and annoying to see people that use this unit complain cause others want updates. is it your intention to keep this unit back compared to its competition? do you want to see fewer people use it and it falling into disregard? i dont. so please as i said you or any others who come and cry when someone presses atomic for updates DISREGARD US and if and when an update comes out FEEL FREE TO NOT INSTALL IT OR EVEN ROLL BACK YOUR UNIT if you prefer so
I understand you feel very strongly about your opinion. My comments will not effect the production decisions to update firmware or not. It was not my intention to get you more upset or anything since it sounded like I would not like any updates. I was just trying to point out sounding good and improving tone has other reasons besides technology. Technology and frequent updates sometimes steals away from your precious practice time. I just wanted to help you by pointing out that. However you did not ask for my help so I will just wish you the best.
i dont doubt there are many parameters in good tone and the AA series doesnt need tone improvement. i for one have managed to find exactly the tone i wanted for many years from this unit. the updates should be about some well known problems like the midi cc for the pitch block or to add some much requested features like a global eq or a more convenient IR loading-auditioning system and to add more amp models to improve the unit's versatility. i am not upset but i just cant understand why argue against an update. even if the unit is 100% for you other users made useful feedback suggestions and no one would be hurt from it
If it helps as a sign of activity for the business, Atomic did recently ship the Bass Box.
I get your frustration, but not updating shipping products is pretty much the norm in the industry. There are notable exceptions especially in the modeler space.
Atomic made some fundamental improvements during the last upgrade cycle. I'd love to see new features, and hope for a few bug fixes.
All gear and instruments are imperfect. Using them to your advantage in spite of this is perfecting your craft.
actually no...almost every modeler gets updates. i used to get updates for my line6 pod x3 10 years after its relase. even crappy chinese brands update their devices constantly and that's the proper thing to do in digital modeling. and as far as i know atomic apart from the clr cabs is only in the modeling area. they dont make analog gear.
and yes all gear and instruments are imperfect. and another way to get past this is to move to gear that has solved the problems the previous one hasnt. my "craft" is playing music. not waiting for years for trivial fixes that never come.
PS the bass box was announced winter 2018-2019 and said to begin shipping april 2019. ended up shipping 1 year later in march or april 2020. thats not a success
You might want to research that one a bit. The FM3 is about the last modeler on the market that you would want to depend on. It’s been a real disaster so far.
i have done some research and it has problems but at least i know the company wont abandon it to its fate. i'm more interested in long term support of a product and not so much about termporary fixable problems
Jace - would be great to keep fans motivated through this covid period with what FW features Atomic is working on! I love my AA12 and would really help to have a global EQ (as acoustics change every new place) and a basic looping function (using the ext loop with DA AD conversion doesnt cut it). Thanks.
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