Improving feel

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  1. Amplifool

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    hey all,
    Got an amplifire a week ago and am enjoying some of the tones. Many I feel are pretty lifeless and sterile, particularly in feel and dynamics. Often very 2d sounding if that makes sense.

    My reference point is a kemper. I got the AF second hand as a back up rig but at the moment I don't have confidence in it.

    Could anyone offer advice on improving particularly the feel and dynamics?
     
  2. gluve95

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    In the amp block turn down the damping. You can even go to 0 . And try some third party IR's
     
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    I second this, and keep in mind @Amplifool , it's worth mentioning that the Amplifire handles other pedals on the front end really well.
     
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    I would love to try one of the old Tube Works drive pedals in front of it.
     
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    Thx for replying guys, interesting points.

    I already tried turning the damping way down and it wasn't really night and day in difference although it did improve things.

    Will IRs really aid the dynamics? I understand they may well improve the overall sound but the touch and response of a preset?

    Interesting point about pedals. I've got a clone of a Timmy and a tubescreamer so will try those out.

    Cheers!
     
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    You are comparing a $500 unit to a $2000 unit. If the amplifire was as good as the kemper then you got ripped off 4 times over on the kemper.
     
  7. Amplifool

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    Useful reply. Thanks
     
  8. Wyatt McConnell

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    You are probably already doing this, but in case you aren't - make sure you are.pegging master volume on non-starter volume amps (Plexi, all the Fenders, etc.). I agree that IRs.dont affect dynamics/touch sensitivity.
     
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    Try this: Go to the amp block and turn damping to 0, then go to your cab block and turn that down to -5.0dB

    Someone suggested these settings on the Facebook AA forum and it really makes a difference on my live presets... more dynamic and less bassy.
    I also use third party IRs and that make a huge difference. My $500 unit sounds pretty freakin good playing with a live band BTW.
     
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    Thx guys. I'll try these suggestions out as soon as I get the chance!
     
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    Hey Wyatt, can I get a clarification on what you mean by "pegging the Master Volume"? Do you mean running it at 10?
     
  12. Wyatt McConnell

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    Yes. Also there was a typo - non-master volume amps. In all amps remember master volume is a tone/gain/feel control; use the "level" control in the p block for adjusting how loud the amp block is.
     
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    Thx for the input all. I'm now closer to the tone and feel that I like than before.

    The damping right down, the master up and an external OD all help a lot.

    Any other tips?
     
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    mollydyer Well-Known Member

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    I found that finding the right cab IR made the world of difference for how I *perceive* the feel.

    I've tried the Celestion Creambacks and some from OwnHammer. And how it sounds in my in ears vs how it sounds through a flat response speaker - there's a big difference between the two. I actually had to dial the bottom in the cab back with the ownhammers.

    Take a backup of the whole system, then backup one of the settings you're playing with, and mess around with it until you just nail it.
     
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    I've tried the ownhammer free Mesa irs and they also help. Definitely getting closer!

    Thx again.
     
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    Yep there is just something special when you find the right ir . I also like to find the sweet spot on the gain. That point when you play with a lighter touch it stay fairly clean with just a little push to it. And then when you dig it it breaks up nicely. On the 59, Deluxe and Plexi it's around five . But I'm sure that will vary depending on pickups. Of course if you're a high gainer this is useless to you. On the high gain amps I like the Freadmans. Sounds really good with the Red Wires Orange V30 IR
     
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  17. Amplifool

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    Thx gluve95 I'll check out redwirez free offerings too.
     

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