IR for Classic (nylon) guitar?

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  1. Chalky

    Chalky Well-Known Member

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    Can't find one....has anyone got one they can recommend? ...or even heard of one... ?
     
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    3 Sigma are doing acoustic IRs. I'm not sure if they have a nylon or not.
     
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    Type classical guitar impulse response in Google. I'm not being a smart ##s, the first selection is a forum where there are links to some Ir files. If you don't get same results from search let me know, I' ll send a link, right now on phone
     
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    I suspect the challenge with nylon guitar sim is getting the envelope right more than a timbral thing. I'd be quite happy to be wrong, though. :)
     
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    Thanks for that...I have tried googling but little came back, and no obvious hits.... anyway I have asked the question to SIgma
     
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    Cor, just got a reply from Sigma (within 30 mins, and on a Sunday....impressive), apparently they are working on a classical IR and expect to release it in the summer. Happy days.
     
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    Wow that is impressive on a Sunday
     
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    Dude, just take the US Clean preset and remove all the gain. If that doesnt sound great on classical guitar nothing will.
     
  9. Chalky

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    Yep, tried that, plus tried Sigma's acoustic IR... and while both are 'ok', personally I suspect the special dynamic and fullness of a nylon string and the dynamic of a decent classical guitar probably demands a special IR. Anyway Sigma seems to think that and I will wait to get Sigma's classic IR and hope that i'm right, if not... hey it's only $10.
     
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    Have you tried turning off the cab block? Might sound better totally flat.
     
  11. Marc

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    Wich one you recomend me? There are 3 models (10usd each).
    http://www.3sigmaaudio.com/items/category/classical-guitars/
    Thanks.
     
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    Cmon think about it. Classical guitar is never run through an amp with a guitar pickup. It is miked with a condenser mic. So to put a pickup on a classical guitar and run it through an amp is strike one and two. To then try to recreate this in a modeler is strike three youre out. I dont think an IR will ever be made to simulate an acoustic nylon string instrument miked up. Im at a loss why you dont get a mic and record that way. If youre intent is to get a classical guitar sound in the context of a rock song at a gig i still dont think a modeler is the way to go. Maybe im wrong, good luck in your search for a classical guitar IR.
     
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    I recorded this running a 13-pin pickup through a Boss GP-10. The GP's guitar simulation basically applies IRs to the pickup input. Nylon string simulation starts at 1:02. Dunno that you could get the attack quite right with Amplifire but the timbre is almost certainly achievable.

    http://aleclee.rocks/content/?attachment_id=152
     
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    3 Sigma are now offering a few classical guitar IRs... i bought the cOrdoba one which I haven't tried yet but if it's anything like their steel string acoustic IRs I'll be happy. It is such a bonus to be able to use A12 for acoustic steel and classical tones in addition to electric.
     
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    Hi, I'd bought the Taylor 812 IR but I couldn't get a decent tone with amplifire, you found a way to make a preset using the IR that you bought it?
     
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    On the topic of acoustics - I would like to see some offerings for acoustic amp speaker emulation. I sometimes want to play an acoustic through my AF3 (Live) and would like to have a choice of an acoustic amp / speaker (Fishman/Fender/Roland, etc). I can't seem to find that - anyone else looking for that as well? I've purchased 3 sigma acoustic IR's, but that's more for taking my solid body and getting an acoustic flavor to my understanding. That didn't work so great for me with a real acoustic (w/pu).
     
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    I totally agree with you!
     
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    The Jazz Chorus 120 was one of the few choices back before dedicated acoustic amps were widely available, maybe you can try with an IR of that amp, you can find one here for free:
    http://www.grgr.de/IR/
     
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    Hey - Thanks Andy - going there now to download.
     
  20. mikem68

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    how about dumping IR's altogether and using a cab emulator like the Iconoclast or cabzeus. check out this video. I am going to order one of these. I am sick and tired of IR's. it seems nobody can make one that I am truly happy with.
     

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