The New Frontier

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  1. caballero59

    caballero59 Active Member

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    I wonder where the next modeling improvement will be for Atomic? Is the modeling as realistic as current hardware processing can take it? Will the amp modeling be static for the foreseeable future with the effort put into effects and functionality?
     
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    It seems Atomic are in another one of their frequent states of "hibernation".
    Maybe they will wake and rise from the slumber at some point in the future, who knows?

    No complaints as the unit does do the job nicely, though there's still a couple of little niggles that could be fixed in order to make it more useable device.
     
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    DreamTheaterRules Well-Known Member

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    IR improvements are the next frontier.
     
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    Are you speaking of the Jay "C" far field IR's. Are they worth trying and if so, how do you get one?
     
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    If you mean the IR itself there are endless third party ones available, thats the beauty of the AA, you can choose any IR you wish.
     
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    Oh yeah, I've tried plenty. The game changer for me on any cleaner tones is Jay Mitchell's reflection free far field IR> It is several levels above anything else I've heard. Closest I've ever gotten to real amp/speaker tones. And not an incremental improvement, it's a huge step forward.

    Now if I could just find one that was that "next level" for my gain tones, I'd be ecstatic.
     
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    How do we get these?
     
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    Thread at TGP in the digital and modeling forum, started by Jay Mitchell and titled “IR Properties.” He will only give it to you with your promise you will not give it to anyone. It’s not for sale. All he asks is that you provide your thoughts after reviewing it.
     
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    P.s. The C one is the one you want. Try it with your clean tones, but remove all pre bass and treble cuts, as with this IR they aren’t needed, and you’ll be rewarded with the most realistic clean tones you’ve heard from your Atomic.

    I am not as blown away by his 4x12 though for my gain tones. But the clean one (C) is a game changer.
     
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    Here is the link to a post with links to available Reflection Free FF IR’s.

    https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?posts/29530050/

    Keep in mind most of these are shared as “learn as you go” experiments by amateurs and the speaker selection is limited.

    Personally, I don’t love the results of any of the 4x12 versions yet. If you are a high gain player, try the Hot Rod Deluxe from Gigsup. It may seem counterintuitive, but he has a Celestion V30 in there so it is really just a V30 1x12. The Vox AC30 with Alnico’s is also good for those brighter early Marshall tones.
     
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    It looks like Jay has pulled the offer to hand out the ones he did, which is unfortunate.
     
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    He has just contacted me to say that he's still ok to hand them out provided that you agree to review them and not to share them.
     
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    Wait til you try the C on your clean presets. Just make sure you remove your "pre" bass cut and your cab top end rolloff before you try it. Removing the mic's proximity effect and the room reflections from the IR makes all those corrective cuts not necessary. You WILL need to redo your amp EQ settings. You'll be rewarded with the most transparent IR you've tried for clean and cleanish presets.
     
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    That is not what I said.

    Just to be clear, I will say that I am not interested in "sharing" impulse responses with everyone just for the asking. I began a thread on TGP last May to educate, not to promote my (or anyone else's) IRs. The one that has gone viral is not one that I have ever used.
     
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    OK, I stand corrected. Sorry if I caused any misunderstanding!
     
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    Boy, I'd sure like to get my hands on the ones you use. C is clearly in some ways the best IR I've used for Clean/cleanish presets. So yeah, I'd LOVE to have something like that but with my preferred speaker. Or two. And I'd especially love something that provided that level of realism on my higher gain presets, which is where I spend much of my time.

    As of now, I just know there's a clear "next level" out there somewhere, and I don't have it.
     

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