AF12 Newb Programming Help

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  1. Psychotronic

    Psychotronic Member

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    Long-time AFB user, new AF12 user. Have read through the "footswitches" pdf from Jace, have read through a lot of this forum, but coming up with how I would like to have presets for live work? Well, I'm not getting anywhere.

    What I'd like to do is have (for example):

    - buttons 1, 2, and 3 be different amp patches. Setting those as "A/B" would be great, but not a deal-breaker.
    - 4-9 set to be various effects
    - 0 for tap
    - up/down for preset inc/dec. (i.e.: live patch #1 @ 99, live patch #2 @ 100, etc. -- it seems that inc/dec merely goes from whatever amp patch is in that button location)

    So far, I've been trying to place existing amp patches in 1-3, but it seems to bring over ALL of the button and fx assignments from its original patch location, which I don't want. Is it possible to copy/paste pre-existing blocks to my custom patches (thus combining this amp with that reverb)? Have saved my new patch, but it's all wrong. Clearly, I'm missing something here, I'm just not sure what that is. And I'm not sure what footswitch mode I should be using to accomplish the above.

    Also, I'd like it if changing amps on 1-3 would not affect whatever fx (4-9) I already have on -- I'm experiencing the opposite right now. For example, clean patch on 1 with chorus (button 7) on. When I change to dirty amp on 2, it shuts the chorus off. I think I understand why, but I want the amps and fx to be completely independent of each other.
     
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    You're never changing amp models, you're always changing presets that have different amp models selected.
    Preset 1 might be Marshall, while preset 2 might be a Fender, etc.
    You can assign a foot switch to A<>B mode and then assign preset 1 to A and preset 2 to B.
    Then you can use that one foot switch to toggle between those two presets.

    Assigning a foot switch to turn on/off an effect like chorus will simply turn the chorus on/off
    for the selected preset. But it is up to you to make the chorus settings you want for that preset.
    If you want the same chorus settings in ALL presets, you must select a preset that has the chorus settings
    that you like, select the chorus block and in the editor go to FILE-COPY CURRENT BLOCK PARAMETERS
    Then go to a different preset, go to FILE-PASTE PARAMETERS and click SAVE. Now these two presets
    have the exact same chorus settings. Just repeat this process for any other preset that you want to add
    your chorus parameters to.

    Foot switch assignments like this are GLOBAL. So they are always the same no matter which preset you're on.
    PRESET MODE allows you to assign foot switches differently PER PRESET. It also allows you to assign multiple effects
    per preset. So in preset 1 this foot switch could could turn on ECHO and COMPRESSOR. But in preset 2 this foot switch
    could turn on BOOST and PHASER.

    Armed with this info, go back and read the AF12 section of the foot switch assignments PDF again.
    I think it will make more sense now.
    Jace
     
  3. Psychotronic

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    Thanks, Jace, I'll give it a shot!
     
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    So, here's another thing I'm grappling with: I'm tweaking presets, but turning the knobs (either on the unit or virtually within the editor) has no effect on the sound. How am I supposed to know if I "got there" or not without any sort of real-time changes? Am I doing something wrong?
     
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    Changing settings on the unit should always work.

    If you have the editor synced with the unit, then you should try to only use the editor (and not change knobs on the unit). The editor never sees the knob and button changes you make on the unit and can get out of sync. Changing to another preset and back in the editor a quick way to resync the editor to the unit.
     
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    If making changes to the knobs on the hardware or on the editor isn't making a change in sound
    then something is wrong. Cycle the power on your AmpliFire and restart your computer.
    See if this clears things up.
    We recommend that when you are connected to the editor that you make all of your edits
    IN the editor. When you do make changes on the hardware you can go to FILE-REFRESH CURRENT PRESET
    and the changes made in the hardware will be represented in the editor.
    Jace
     
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    I rarely use the physical knobs when editing, and never while using the editor. It was only after realizing that nothing was working that I tried the physical knobs. I'll go for the reboot and report back.
     
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    That worked. Thanks, guys.
     
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    Excellent!
    Jace
     
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    Yup, definitely getting there. It's taken a few weeks of work, and I have a deadline of COB tomorrow to get my patches together before I go back out on the road, but it's coming along nicely.
     
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    Alright, I've got another question regarding footswitches:

    I'm creating a patch (for a specific song) that will be used only once per night. It's basically a copy of another patch, but with the pitch block ON (for a faux 12-string). I need to be able to switch it on/off during the course of the song. How do I set one of the below to the PSH block for just for this one patch? I don't mind giving up the phaser or something just for this one song, if possible.

    My current set-up:

    1-3 are set A/B for amp tones
    4 is trem
    5 is phaser
    6 is comp
    7 is boost
    8 is chorus
    9 is delay
    0 is tap
     
  12. Jace Nuzback

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    You can set one of the foot switches to be in PRESET MODE.
    This allows you to turn a different FX block on/off per preset.
    Jace
     

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