AFB A-B Mode lock update?

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  1. Branshen

    Branshen New Member

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    Hi atomic,

    New member here. I've had the AFB for more than a year and it's an absolute stellar pedal that I use for recording as well as live. I part swapped my ceriatone OTS mini tube amp (dumble derivative) for it and couldn't be happier with my sound, and more importantly, the ease of getting it.

    However, I've been using the AFB as a single channel amp because the A-B Mode has a tendency of not being reliable if knobs have been bumped at any point. I've seen discussion about a lock on this front and would love for the update to come through. Any updates?

    Thanks again for the amazing product.

    Regards,
    Brandon.
     
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    Jace Nuzback Senior Member

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    Brandon,
    No news at this time about an AFB update.
    Sorry.
    Jace
     
  3. Branshen

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    Jace,

    No problem at all. It won't stop music from being made. Thanks for taking the time to update!

    Regards,
    Brandon.
     
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    My little Firebox is a back-up to my main rig, and I've had to resort to this to make it usable in that role.

    IMO it's pretty embarrassing when duct tape is needed to fix something that could be done by firmware. By making sure my backup pedal is good to go at short notice (by taping the knobs), it's also made the Atomic useless for any other tweaking role. . As it s so weirdly easy to have random settings when switched on, its impossible to recommended it as a backup to other guitarists.

    Why isn't there a "boot as saved" or "lock all knobs" feature in this digital box? Would be a perfect guitar case rig/main rig backup if it had it!

    [​IMG]
     
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    Ha, I'd just opened this thread to mention duck tape as a physical workaround pending any future software solution. It's how I used my AFB pretty much all the time I owned it as I just wanted to replicate a 2 channel amp + effects.
     
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    Excuse me; I don't know if I'm understanding this thread (my English is not very good).

    Is it about the physical knobs not showing their real positions in the AB mode?

    I got my AFB in the beginning of the Covid so I haven't used it live yet. But my plans are taking photos of the editor with my mobile phone.

    Then, at the soundcheck, if I have to adjust something, I'll check the photo, move the knobs to the real position and work from it. Then, for the show, I'll leave the knobs in the A position, just in case. I can take photos of the new positions, too, or write them on a paper.

    I really don't see a problem, so... Are you talking about any other thing?

    Thank you.
     
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    Nope, that should do it ............from memory the issue is that any changes to the knobs automatically overwrite the A/B presets.
     
  8. greenblob

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    Yep. Exactly. You could re-dial in the eqs, gain, reverb, master etc every time from a photo or pre prepared settings list... but that's crazy.

    Basically defeats the purpose of making and saving "presets" via the software if they just get permanently and instantly overwritten at the twist or bump of a dial during use.
     
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    Ok

    I actually think it's very useful in a device like the AFB. Do you remember how real amps and pedals used to work? (Just kidding).

    After all, I'll use it as a 2 channel amp. No problem changing settings onstage. I'll keep all the sounds I like safe at home.

    And... You know what? I always disliked to have to save a new preset every time I had to change something onstage in my other digital devices to keep the original preset safe.

    The first days with the AFB I was kind of reluctant to change the settings when I changed the guitar or the style, but then I said "where's the problem?"

    This is a simple thing. If I have to change something, I'll do it like in a real amp. No look back. Part of the beauty of the AFB is in its simplicity.

    It's so cool to be able (again) to add some reverb on the go just because you feel like that... Kind of... Retro :)
     
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    Yeah, I hear your point, I just wish I could trust it as a true plug and play mid gig saver. Last thing I want to be doing with my backup in front of a live audience is working on getting suitable sounds with the show already delayed.

    All good. My AA3 that does what I need i and I take that most of the time as backup. Just weird that the "boot as saved" idea is deemed a useful function on the AA3, AA6 and AA12, but not the "better as a backup" sized Fbox.
     
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    The AFB was designed more to be used like an amp or effect stompbox in the real world where "what you see is what you get", a knob set at a certain level is reflected as that in the unit's sound. Whilst I totally get being able to choose to have the knobs either functioning or locked where you've set them would be handy as an option the AFB was essentially designed to be used as a replacement platform for one amp & lets face it........in the real world you wouldn't want your amps knobs or effect pedal's knobs locked into one setting on a gig as you will have to make minor adjustments to tone, volume, reverb etc depending on the environment's acoustics for each gig & even throughout the performance. The fact that you can actually foot switch between 2 different amp sounds on the fly is already a bonus. I think some of you are expecting this thing to have all the "bells & whistles" of the larger units in a single pedal sized unit when it was likely designed with simplicity "what you see is what you get" but also still quite a bit of flexibility in mind.
    If you want to be able to save all your settings, gains, volumes, EQs etc get one of the other units that are designed for that, like an AA3 or 6.
    I own both an AA12 & AFB & they both have their different uses depending on what they are capable of. Although I get what you are all saying & agree to some extent it would be handy to have more flexibility I wanted to bring the other perspective to the table, that this box wasn't designed to do 101 million things & they've already packed an enormous amount of options into it already. In comparison the Strymon Iridium, which is about the same size, has far less amps to choose from, doesn't have effects like delay & compression built in, won't lock your knob settings in either, & costs more than the AFB. What works for you in a pedal isn't necessarily what will work for others & if they were to try cater to everyone's idea of what the pedal should do it would be never ending.
     
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    That's it. If the knobs had to be locked/unlocked from a computer, that function would be totally useless for me.

    I'm willing to go onstage in a little local club with this little thing and see my friends' faces. ;)
     
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    Thats why I keep kind of going back to the request being more of a "boot as saved" instead of "instant overwrite" option in the software.

    With a "boot as saved" option you could still tweak all you want to suit the current situation, but when power is cycled, it loads the saved profile.

    Obviously we could go round in circles here, and lots if good points have been brought up. Its all good. I would find the feature very helpful is all .
     
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    I'm afraid I thought "locked" meant you only could unlock the knobs from the computer.

    Now I understand what you say. Boot as saved would be Ok, as a option. But not when after the soundcheck I have to pack my gear and come back later for the show.
     
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