Really impressed with ML Sound Lab IR's

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  1. Dave_5150

    Dave_5150 Senior Member

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    Hi all, I've been playing around with these for the last couple of months and I'm finding them much easier to use to dial in great tones.

    I wanted to hold off before posting about them until after the honeymoon phase as I'm aware they're not the cheapest. However I've found them fantastic to use and I've kept going back for more.

    So far I have the Bogner, Freidman, Zilla, Silver Jubilee and the four new Marshall 4x12's and they've got me covered for everything I'll need to do. Brilliant mixes and individual mic captures in every pack.

     
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    Mikko is really good at capturing individual charasteristics of a guitar cab. He doesn't have regular mic positions, instead he does what sounds good with that particular cab, which is how it should be done in my opinion. I've got Mesa, Friedman, Zilla and Bogner cab packs from ML.
     
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    I'll have to take a look at these!
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    I’ve been meaning to come in an post about how great the ML sound lab IR’s sound. I was using a couple free IRs that Mikko posted out there a while back and about 2-3 weeks ago I purchased the Mega Oversize cab pack. They’re not cheap but wow they sound amazing. I really haven’t been using all of the other IR’s I have from Own hammer, Celestion, live ready sound and Red Wirez since I got the ML mega over size pack.
     
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    Are you using them with an a FRFR of any type in a live situation? I’ve been mainly using the Ownhammer GNR and 412 FMAN, if you can offer any comparison.
     
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    I have the OH GNR and they are awesome but would really like to try out the 412 FMAN, so which is your favorite and yes, can you offer a comparison as requested, would be helpful. Thanks
     
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    I’ve been favoring the GNR Brown and RIP mixes with boosted 800 and hot Brit models, and the FMAN Shred and RIP mixes with the Arkham and BE/HBE models. The former works great for nailing a lot of 80s tones, and the latter does basically heavier/thicker versions of 80s tones. (What can I say, the band I’m currently in is hovering around that sonic territory.) I find those mixes to be pretty well balanced, neither being too ‘boxy’ or ‘buzzy’ in a mix. I find that a lot of stuff that sounds great in GarageBand DI doesn’t always translate as well at volume through my FRFR. I’m fairly new to using impulse responses, so maybe there is some learning curve I’m a bit behind, and YMMV.
     
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    Great... gone to have to spring for the FMAN pack, I needs to hear them. :)
     
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    I have the OH GnR, Freidman and Zilla packs. I much prefer the ML Sound Lab packs. All for live use.
     
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    Anyone seen this yet?

     
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    Yep, looks cool. Although I'm hoping that I'm done with needing new IR's now.
     
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    I'm with ya. I haven't paid for an IR in years. This plugin looks really cool, but maybe a bit pricey for what you get. Probably more economical for someone that hasn't spent much, or any, money on IRs.
     
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    I've probably dropped more money on IR's in the last few years than I paid on the AA12. If I'd found the ML Sound Lab IR's earlier I'd have spent far less. Totally agree that their plug in looks great though.
     
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    I'm definitely going to have to try them out, with that endorsement.

    Which of the Marshall packs is similar to the OH GNR, or if you had to pick just one which would it be?
     
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    I think the ML PR-M75 is probably the nearest to that pack in terms of cones and config (although OH don't mention which cones they're using). Check out this demo of all four cabs though and decide for yourself.

     
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    I bought the ML Freeman last night, played with them through headphones, very awesome, sound great. But not so great through the Powercab. I want to get either a CLR or Xitone. It appears the PC is great for clean and break up tones, but not so great for high gain.
     
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    I just bought the ML Freeman earlier today, I am liking it through the Headrush FRFR. I compared it to similar OH FMAN IRs I was using, and they had a little extra 'sizzle' that the OHs are lacking. (Even when adjusting rolloff, Q, EQ, etc.) Not that the OHs sound bad by any means, the ML added a little something subtle yet significant that I wasn't missing until I heard it. On a couple of my favorite patches (BE and 800 models) it also added a little more in the dynamics department, making a little more convincing 'amp in the room' feel. A/B'ing them via foot switch it was very noticeable. I'll be trying it in a band mix tomorrow, so I'll see how it does there.

    I'm not even sure I'm going to buy a Marshall pack now. I found a M25 mix in the Freeman pack that replaced my current GNR mix IR perfectly on my favorite patch, built around a boosted 800.
     
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    Nice, which M25 mix are you using to replace the GNR? I have both now and I really like the GNR for certain things but it would be interesting to know which M25 mix you are referring to. Also, after some dialing in, the PC now sounds better than before. At least I can get by with it but have not used it yet in a live band situation.
     
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    It is either the Freedom mix or the 7B C MPT, those are the two I really liked with a number of patches based on the BE and 800. That is just through my FRFR, though. I have not hooked it up through an interface in a while.
     
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    I find the darkest 7B single mic file to be great in almost every ML Sound Lab pack and I don't need drastic cuts either on any of their IR's either
     
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