Setup help with AA12

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  1. DownSouthJukin'

    DownSouthJukin' New Member

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    100% newbie on using a guitar FX pedalboard processor, I've always used pedals and a amp. How do you setup a AmpliFIRE 12 WITHOUT running it through a amp or pc? I want to use the AA12 the way as a amp head with external cabinet but for "bedroom"- late night playing levels. I know I'll need some type of powered speaker, I have a pair of jbl 305 studio monitors, can I use them or just one of them or do I need to get a powered pa speaker? If I can use my jbl's how do I hook it up, what output jacks do I use and type of cables do I need? I don't want to use it for any recording just jamming so I don't want to have to run it through a pc with a interface. Remember I need it for bedroom playing levels without waking and shaking the whole house. Thanks
     
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    Welcome aboard!
    You can certainly use one or both of your JBL 305 studio monitors.
    Take a look at the attached picture of the rear of your monitors.
    If this picture is correct you can use either XLR cables or TRS cables.
    https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/XLR10--pro-co-exm-10-excellines-microphone-cable-10-foot
    https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/BP10--pro-co-bp-10-excellines-balanced-patch-cable-10-foot
    If you're only going to use one of them, you'll want to set your AmpliFire for mono outputs.
    Connect your unit to your computer via USB and launch the editor application.
    If you haven't downloaded the editor yet, you can download it for Mac OS or Windows here:
    https://atomicamps.com/atomic-amps-support/
    Click the GLOBAL tab.
    In the upper right of the GLOBAL page you'll see MAIN (1/4") OUTPUT MODES
    and AUX (XLR) OUTPUT MODES. Select MONO for both if you only use one monitor
    and select STEREO if you want to use both of the monitors.
    Also, here are links to my docs for TONE TIPS and FOOT SWITCH ASSIGNMENTS.
    These should be very helpful moving forward.

    Tone Tips

    https://atomicamps.com/forum/index.php?threads/tone-tips.1830/


    Foot switch assignments

    https://atomicamps.com/forum/index.php?threads/assigning-foot-switches.2054/
     

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    Also, the AA into the effects loop of your guitar amp can also work at lower volumes. Up to you to decide if that's quiet enough. Monitors will be near field and might suit you better.
     
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    Thanks Jace and Eric! Some other questions just so I understand it correctly.
    Is there any difference between using XLR Mic cables and TRS cables, most of the pictures I see of FX pedalboards people are using the XLR Mic cables?

    I noticed the TRS cables are stereo cables and not regular instrument cables, so I definitely want to "Balanced Stereo" cables correct?

    If I use just one of my speakers after switching the AA12 to mono mode does it matter which output jack on the AA12 I use, L or R?

    Obviously if I use XLR cables the go to the AUX out and TRS it's Main out, does the AA12 auto-detect which one is being used or do I need to manually switch or set it up?
    The way I have my jbl's setup is out of my PC to a Scarlett 2i2 then to the jbl's using TRS cables, they also serve as my speakers for all my PC sounds. I really don't want to have to use the 2i2, if I use XLR cables can I leave everything hooked up the way it is and use the AA12? If I can I'm guessing I would have make sure the PC is off, or would that matter?
    Sorry if my questions are dumb but like I said all I've ever used was just a amp and pedals, guess I'm just old fashioned...or just old. LOL Again THANKS!
     
  5. Jace Nuzback

    Jace Nuzback Senior Member

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    My answers in CAPS.

    Is there any difference between using XLR Mic cables and TRS cables, most of the pictures I see of FX pedalboards people are using the XLR Mic cables?
    XLR CABLES LOCK IN WHEN YOU CONNECT THEM SO THEY DON'T GET PULLED OUT BY ACCIDENT. BUT THEY ARE BOTH BALANCED CABLES THAT REJECT NOISE AND WORK PERFECTLY.

    I noticed the TRS cables are stereo cables and not regular instrument cables, so I definitely want to "Balanced Stereo" cables correct?
    STANDARD 1/4" INSTRUMENT CABLES WILL WORK FINE, BUT TRS CABLES ARE BALANCED AND REJECT NOISE.

    If I use just one of my speakers after switching the AA12 to mono mode does it matter which output jack on the AA12 I use, L or R?
    NO. BOTH WILL OUTPUTS WILL CARRY THE SAME MONO SIGNAL.

    Obviously if I use XLR cables the go to the AUX out and TRS it's Main out, does the AA12 auto-detect which one is being used or do I need to manually switch or set it up?
    THE SIGNAL IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE AT BOTH OUTPUTS. NOTHING TO SWITCH.

    The way I have my jbl's setup is out of my PC to a Scarlett 2i2 then to the jbl's using TRS cables, they also serve as my speakers for all my PC sounds. I really don't want to have to use the 2i2, if I use XLR cables can I leave everything hooked up the way it is and use the AA12? If I can I'm guessing I would have make sure the PC is off, or would that matter?
    YOU CAN LEAVE EVERYTHING HOOKED UP THE WAY IT IS, BUT YOU'LL NEED TO UNPLUG THE TRS CABLES FROM THE SPEAKERS WHEN YOU PLUG IN THE XLR CABLES TO USE YOUR AMPLIFIRE. THEN RECONNECT THE TRS CABLES WHEN YOU UNPLUG THE XLR CABLES WHEN YOU'RE DONE PLAYING WITH AMPLIFIRE.
    TO AVOID ALL THE PLUGGING AND UNPLUGGING YOU CAN GET A SMALL MIXER LIKE A YAMAHA MG06.
    https://www.sweetwater.com/store/de...pe=e&msclkid=6469f18c41501f7fc849acda956dcca3
    THEN YOU WOULD PLUG THE OUTPUTS OF YOUR 2I2 IN TO A PAIR OF LINE INPUTS ON THE MIXER AND YOUR AMPLIFIRE INTO
    ANOTHER PAIR OF INPUTS. PLUG THE OUTPUTS OF THE MIXER IN TO YOUR SPEAKERS.

    Sorry if my questions are dumb but like I said all I've ever used was just a amp and pedals, guess I'm just old fashioned...or just old. LOL Again THANKS!
    THERE ARE NO DUMB QUESTIONS AND THAT'S WHAT FORUMS ARE FOR!
    I'M ALWAYS HAPPY TO HELP AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
    CHEERS,
    JACE
     
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    Thanks Jace this really helps and simplifies things!!
     
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