Seymour Duncan Power Stage 170

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  1. Jace Nuzback

    Jace Nuzback Senior Member

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    Hey folks,
    I just wanted to say that I recently picked up an Avatar G112 S&P Vintage 30 1x12 cabinet
    https://avatarspeakers.com/shop/guitar/g112-vintage-sp/
    and a Seymour Duncan Power Stage 170 pedal power amp.
    https://www.seymourduncan.com/power-amp/powerstage-170?__uuid_ref=5deec79f7d52a
    I bypass the CAB IR on my AF12 and run in to these.
    It sounds fantastic! The 3 band EQ is great and really helps beef up the signal.
    So I leave my CAB IR on to go to FOH and monitor my signal on stage with this system.
    I'm very happy with it!
    Jace
     
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    The 3 band EQ on the 170 is incredible for tone shaping. You can make a British sounding cab into an American, and visa versa. Just an incredible piece of gear, with more clean volume than you'll ever need.
     
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    Jace Nuzback Senior Member

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    I was pleasantly surprised how good the EQ was.
    Now I have a simple master EQ to adjust for the sound
    of different rooms!
     
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    Ive been thinking of trying something like this. Not having much luck with IR's at the moment (bloody mine field lol).

    Just tried the AA3 though the effects return of my Boss Katana head into 2x12 cab, cab sims and power amp switched off, so just using the amp sims ... and it sounds great ... Really impressed, to the point where dependent on how it goes at my gig tomorrow, i will sell the Katana head (which sounds shitty through the cab) and buy a cheap power amp. The Hot Brit sounds awesome :-D
     
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    Forgot to add that i will probably mic the 2x12 cab at the gig. Not had time to find a suitable IR for the other outputs to desk.
     
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    Dagwin Well-Known Member

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    +1 for the Powerstage 170.
    Also switched to it quite recently and very happy with it.
    Plenty of power and the equalizer is really a great addition, it works wonders.
     
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    Hey guys!

    Is there any way to route a cab Sim ON signal on Main Left (for instance) and a cab Sim OFF signal on the main right?
    I am currently sending to the desk a full Sim signal with IR via aux XLRs and I'm using a FRFR monitor on stage with main outs. I can thus use the level knob on the AA3 to control and adjust my monitor level in live situations. For some reasons, sometimes, I have to use a 2x12 cab with a SD Powerstage170. I turn the cab sim "off" on the main outs and send to the SD170, and send with cab sim "on" to the desk via XLR. Great!
    But... In this situation I am losing my FRFR monitor! I could use one of the XLR to my FRFR but I have no more level control! Moreover, the XLR are set to - 18dB for the desk.

    Well, that is why it would be great to keep the level control on main outs and have the opportunity to split one with cab ON, and one with cab Off, you know my problem ?

    Any idea?
    Many thanks.

    All the best
    Ludo
     
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    Dave_5150 Senior Member

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    Maybe with a stereo IR? It's not a problem I've had or a solution I've tried thoough.
     
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    Slartibartfarst42 Senior Member

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    It sounds like a great bit of kit but if i were to get that, I'd also need to buy an FRFR cabinet to go with it. At the moment my Laney IRT-X does the job very nicely.
     
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    Good stuff, Jace. Mulled over the idea of getting the PowerStage 700 & mounting it a 2X12 cab with a couple Eminence Lil Texas for a light but powerful grab 'n go. Maybe a used one down the road...
     
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    You mean a guitar cab, right? I think the idea of the Seymour Duncan Power Stage range is to feed a guitar cab from the power amp...
     
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    I drive an FRFR cabinet with the PowerStage 170. You can drive guitar cabinets with it as well of course ;-)
     
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    Jace Nuzback Senior Member

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    I'm still really loving this SD170 power amp with my 1x12 vintage 30!
    I also just added a Line 6 M5 pedal. I got this used for about $100.
    I use the M5 Tap Tempo button to send the MIDI CC to the AmpliFire for Tap Tempo.
    So I have one global tempo that I tap for both units. I can also access the Tuner
    function of the M5 with the Tap Tempo foot switch so those are two things I don't
    have to worry about accessing via the AmpliFire.
    I'm using the M5 in the FX loop of the AmpliFire. Because the FX Loop is movable in
    the signal flow of the AmpliFire per preset I can use a drive pedal model in front
    of the AMP block in one preset and a modulation effect after the AMP block in another.
    The M5 has some really cool effect types like filters that the AmpliFire doesn't have.
    For $100 it's really a great addition and the two units work great together!
     
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    Way cool. Do you have the open or closed back Avatar?
     
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    Question, can you compare the power stage to the ISP? I need a small flat amp for my monitor, I get everything from the AFB so while the eq is nice is there any disadvantages to the ISP, say in power ?
     
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    Jace Nuzback Senior Member

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    ISP makes two small power amps.
    The Stealth Ultra Light Power Amp and the Stealth Pro Power Amp.
    The Stealth Ultra Light Power Amp actually has a preamp built in along with bass and treble controls.
    If you were using analog pedals this would be superior to the Seymour Duncan.
    Stealth Pro Power Amp is a class A/B with no preamp so it would be a better choice for modelers.
    You'll get a more natural feel and sound from this.
    I looked at both of these before deciding on the Seymour Duncan.
    When you bypass the CAB IR on the AmpliFire you lose a gain stage so you have less output to the power amp.
    To me this can sound a bit thin. The EQ section of the Power Stage totally makes up for this to my ear.
    I am still very happy with the Power Stage.
    I wish ISP would make a Stealth Pro Power Amp MKII with a 6 band graphic EQ!
    Then they would have my money!
    Jace
     
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    Thanks @Jace Nuzback , for my need to power a wedge and not a cab seems the isp is good.

    Have you ever tried an amptweaker depth finder? If your using no cab ir into real cab it's a game changer. Run the amptweaker in the loop or in between a unit like the AFB and poweramp. It's only useful going into a real cab but any ss will become very warm and tubey, it adds some sag so it's not stiff either
     
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    Jace Nuzback Senior Member

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    Good call.
    I saw the demo for the amptweaker depth finder but I can't find them for sale ANYWHERE!
     
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    I bought direct, I felt his business was worth supporting cause he's really kicking out some good stuff.

    I used the depth finder with an ada b200 and I couldn't believe how it changed, it's worth getting if running a real cab, or Atomic could include a depth/resonance knob :D
     
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    Love my AA12 and SD170. My AX8 has been sitting idle lately. I'm running it into a 1x12 with an EVM.
     
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