Discussion in 'Discussion' started by Jace Nuzback, Sep 5, 2019.
Here are more of the Stage Volume presets!
Just bumping this up to make sure to make sure people don't miss half of my work!
I've downloaded these (thanks by the way, loved your other presets) but not imported them to my AA3 yet. I use a Laney IRT-X, is there anything I might need to adjust as they were voiced with a CLR?
Thanks for the kind words!
Personally I would start by simply adjusting the Treble, Mid, Bass and Presence knobs to taste.
After that go to the Graphic EQ block if you need to fine tune further.
Remember to save your changes and perhaps rename the preset with initials
so that you know you've made changes to it.
Jace, I downloaded and imported all the presets you made in these two threads. Great job, it is the perfect starting point for these amps for me to do other things with them as well.
Question, can you school me on using the Graphic and Parametric EQs to fine tune? I've never really used one before. I've been following your directions on your tone tips thread and didn't see it mentioned there.
I'm glad you like them!
First try to make the changes you need by simply adjusting the
amp tone knobs. Bass, Mids, Treble and Presence.
I used the Graphic EQ in each preset to fine tune them.
The important tone frequencies are 320Hz to 2.6kHz.
As with ALL EQ, my advice is to cut frequencies that are in the way,
rather than boosting frequencies you can't hear clearly.
Make small changes. Start cutting frequencies by .5dB or 1dB.
Any time that you boost frequencies, you're also boosting noise
AND the overall output level of the preset which can get you
closer to clipping the outputs.
If after you have cut other frequencies and you still feel the need
to boost other frequencies, go ahead. Again, just make small changes.
I set all of the PEQ blocks to be PEAKING.
This is a parametric EQ.
Meaning you can select a frequency, the Q (bandwidth) and cut or boost.
Turning the Q knob to the right results in a narrower bandwidth.
Less frequencies to the left or right of the selected frequency will be affected.
Turning the Q knob to the left results in a wider bandwidth.
More frequencies to the left or right of the selected frequency will be affected.
In these presets all of these EQ blocks are OFF.
The level is also set to 0dB so it is not cutting or boosting any frequencies
until you make adjustments.
So start by turning the EQ blocks on.
Then set the Q knob to noon (Straight up).
Set the level to boost by +6dB.
Now turn the frequency knob until you find a frequency that you DON'T like.
Then set the level knob to cut by -3dB.
Now slowly turn the Q knob all the way to the right and back to noon a few
times until you find the setting that sounds best to you.
Now toggle the EQ on/off to see if you've made an improvement or not.
If you don't like the results, start over with a different frequency.
If you do, move on to the next EQ block and start again looking
for a different frequency to cut.
Personally I don't use the PEQ blocks to dial my tones.
I find that I can get everything I need without them.
But that doesn't mean that YOU shouldn't use them!
I think that the best use of these EQs is when you want to
DRASTICALLY change the sound of an amp model to sound like a different amp.
Like trying to make a Marshall sound more like an Orange.
Or an HBE to sound more like an EGNL.
I hope that helps!
That helps a lot Jace, thanks! I'm going to use these tips and experiment but the AA6 doesn't need any Drastically changed sounds. It sounds great as it is.. just trying to get the most out of it. The amps and effects in it are all I'd ever use so it is perfect for me and sounds better than any modeler I have ever owned. I bought a HX Stomp because it is so popular I thought it would be a great learning ground with all the info, tips and videos for setting it up but I just find it confusing. Everyone configures it differently and in a way that doesn't make sense to using a real amp and effects. The AA6 functions like a real amp and is easier to understand. I will be spending my time learning modeling with the AA6 now as it is the easiest to understand IMO. I also think the computer interface is better and easier than the Helix. I don't know why others think differently but Atomic's is easier for me to understand. Maybe because it functions like a real amp and pedal setup. Atomic's manual is also better and has more info on using the modeler.
I had set my AA6 aside for a few months while I was working with the Stomp and when I saw you post on that other forum about these presets I got the AA6 back out to try out these presets. I'd forgotten just how good this AA6 sounds... so much better than the Stomp. My favorite preset is still the Cornfield Fat lead ( I think it is called) but all of yours sound great too and will be my starting point when I start building my own presets. The AA6 sounds so good though, I just haven't had a need to create my own. Thanks for making me get my AA6 back out and stop wasting my time with the other. The posts you've made on tone setups like what you posted above is very helpful.
So, I just downloaded the new "stage volume"presets that Jace made, got them into my AF12, and every preset has a wah on it that I can't seem to get rid of.Very strange. The editor shows that the wah is off, plugged in an expression pedal. Can't get rid of it. Any ideas?
I added a T-Wah setting to each preset so that you could get a wah effect without using an expression pedal.
But I don't know why it would be on if the WAH block is off.
You might try just updating the firmware.
In the editor go to FILE-UPDATE FIRMWARE and see if that has any impact.
Let me know your results.
Just updated, and it's the same. I believe I was up to date, but did the update process anyway. On the editor it shows the T Wah is off, but on the menus inside the AF12 it says it's on, but I can't get it to respond with the hardware knob. Hardware knobs work with other effects though. Maybe the preset files got corrupted during download. Thanks for responding so quickly.
In the WAH block, look for the AUTO OFF parameter.
Set the value to DISABLED.
Save the preset.
Is the wah still there?
If not, change presets.
Is the wah back?
If so, go back to the previous preset.
Is the wah still off?
If this worked you'll need to DISABLE the AUTO OFF for
every preset that has this issue.
Let me know your results.
That fixed it! You’re an AmpliFire genius!
Now, on to checking out your presets.....
Glad that worked out for you!
Also, make sure that you have the most recent firmware.
The current editor can be downloaded here:
Jace, I had been listening to these presets through headphones. Recently I tried them through my Headrush FRFR12 and it was a noticeable difference. They sound much better through my FRFR as that is what they were designed for. I have to crank them pretty loud or they are a little dark and muffled. Cranked up they are nice and bright.
I notice that all the presets are this way. How should I change these patches for a lower volume FRFR experience to brighten them up and make them sound right? I've used the EQ of the amp but it doesn't get it all the way there and there is still that muffled sound.
Since your Headrush has no tone controls, try using the Contour switch. Darkness in a guitar tone usually lives in the low mids, so the Contour switch might just solve it for you.
Thanks Joe, I did try that and it didn't help unfortunately.
Use the Graphic EQ to boost 1.2kHz and 2.6kHz by 1dB.
If you need more, keep turning them up in .5dB increments.
Good to know Jace, I'll give that a try.
@Jace Nuzback I have imported all your stage ready presets again.
I have a weird issue with some of them.
For some of them I have no sound at all:
If I disable the amp, I have sound, but obviously without the amp modeling.
If I save, I hear sound for about 1/4 of a second, then silence again.
I tried disabling and enabling every block in the preset, no success.
Change the amp model and save, no success.
Any idea what is happening ?
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