Tap Tempo Issue

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  1. slateboy

    slateboy Senior Member

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    Looking at the screen-shot, it appears he's using windows, as far as we can see at least.
     
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    ...one more thing to try- assign the tap tempo to another button, just in case that button has a dodgy connection or is intermittent.
     
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    Tried it, problem persists.
     
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    Interesting.....I changed the ms value of the echo by 1 (from 254 to 253), and the delay ended up sounding right. As soon as I tried the tap tempo, it went wrong again. Since I have my expression pedal set up to change the delay mix level for this patch, could THAT be part of the problem? Is it trying to figure out which setting overrides the other?
     
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    I wouldn't think so, but it's easy enough to assign the expression pedal to a different parameter, save the preset and try.
     
  6. Psychotronic

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    No, the problem persists. Weird -- global tempo keeps changing on its own. Yesterday, what was it -- 101.5? It was just 111, now it's 117.6, and I'm not adjusting that value myself. Paging Dr. Marc Gallo.....
     
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  7. slateboy

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    Definitely interested to get to the bottom of this one.
    Can you confirm if problem persists with all external gadgets disconnected.? (Midi controller, expression pedal, etc)
    Another thought:
    I cant remember, but does anyone recall if you can assign an external tap-tempo device via an auxiliary input switch?
     
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    Me too, this is a weird one! You'd have to have an external MIDI controller to send CC messages for Tap Tempo.
     
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    Yes, I tested it with both midi and expression pedal disconnected, no change.
     
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    In our quest to explore all possibilities, how are you listening, ie, stereo or maybe just left or right?
    I noticed from your screen-shot you have ping-pong enabled this would give less than desirable results if you were listening to only the left or right output. (Could be worth also checking if your outputs are configured as 2xleft, 2xright, etc, etc. In the global settings)
     
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    Mono, but good question. I checked it both ways, no difference. Didn't notice that I had ping-pong enabled (thanks!), changed it, made no diferrence. Jace suggested I try changing the tap to global, so I did, and it didn't seem to make a difference there, either. And then, I had a thought: what if -- regardless of having it set to dotted 8th's -- I tap it in in the exact way that I want to hear the echoes, instead of tapping on the beat (which, IMO, should work)? That almost worked, to the point where I'll be able to at least keep it in the setlist tonight. Admittedly, it's a dirty workaround, as it doesn't really solve the problem. But, it's better than it was.
     
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    Would it be possible to do us a video-demo so can see and hear your method, tapping, the led flashing and sound, perhaps with the original “faulty” arrangement and again with your “work-around” version. Would also be handy for you to demo how YOU wish to hear the delays so we know what it is you're striving for. I appreciate its a bit of faffing, so totally your call, but we've come this far and i think a few of us are intrigued by the whole saga and would love to see it resolved.
     
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    Not a bad idea, actually.
     
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    Now it's working. Not sure why that is, but I'm not going to rock the boat unless the problem returns. Thanks for your help, fellas.
     
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    Thats good news. Always a little unsettling that these things could raise their ugly head when you least want them to.
    So, are you doing something different or had a little fiddle with some of the settings?
     
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    Every time I would switch to the patch in question, the delay time was off -- WAY off. I would tweak by a ms and it would line up properly. Save, leave, go back, same problem. Not sure why it suddenly decided to work, but as I said, I'm going with it until it decides to recur. I honestly can't figure if I did anything to affect it.
     
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