Using Amplifire’s cab sims with another preamp question.

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  1. tellycat

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    I’m using a preamp and connecting it infront of the Amplifire but with the amp sim off and only using the Amplifire’s cab sim power sim and eq’s. Is this the right way to use the Amplifire for only cab sims or does it need to be on the Amplifire’s fx loop?
     
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    The way you've described should do the trick
     
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    As @Dave_5150 has already pointed out, i would say your original thought of guitar into real-amp, then real-amp preamp (or FX send) output into AA input (and disable the AA amp block) will be the simplest arrangement.

    4 cable method:
    Putting your "real amp" in to the FX loop would allow you to use the AA FX blocks in a variety of setups, ie you could have the AA wah and compressor running before/into your real-amp then back into the AA for some post-fx, ie, del, rev, chorus, etc. Also will allow you to switch between your real-amp and AA amp-models.
    In order to do this you would use the 4 cable method:
    cable 1: guitar into AA
    cable 2: AA fx send to real-amp input
    cable 3: preamp/line out (fx send?) from real-amp back in to FX return of the AA.
    cable 4: AA output into whatever... (PA, FRFR monitor, etc)
    so the power amp section of the "real amp" is redundant, though you could employ this for another situation (buts that another project...)

    Caution: I'll say the obvious, in case anyone assumes wrongly or misunderstands, do not plug the speaker output into anything other than a speaker!
     
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    If I were you I'd use one of our POWER AMP models. We have 4. EL-34, 6L6, EL-84 and KT-88.
    On Power Amp models, only the Master and Presence knobs are active . The Level knob still controls the overall output .
    Then you can still use any CAB IR that you want.
    You can plug your preamp in to the input or the FX return.
    If you're going to use some of the other FX BLOCKS, there are 5 positions for the FX LOOP
    so you can decide where you want the preamp signal to enter the signal flow.
    Cheers,
    Jace
     
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  5. tellycat

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    Thanks I didn’t know the Amplifire’s fx loop was movable.
    I should add that I’m plugging guitar into my rackmount effects first.
    Then send into preamp then Amplifire. Amplifire’s fx loop connects with rack’s fx loop. Then Amplifire to recorder/monitors.
    Rack effects before and after amps.

    I also recommend the boss fc-50 as well.
    It’s switching both the preamp and Amplifire’s presets at the same time.
     

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