What's your favorite Amp Model

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  1. tonycass

    tonycass Member

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    Hey guys .. I'm curious to get some opinions on which amp models you all prefer.

    For me it's the Kornfield - which I never would have expected. I've always considered myself a Fender amp guy and I don't play with a lot of gain. The Bassman is my second favorite amp in the FireBox so I am staying somewhat true to form. My original plan was to wipe the presets and load up with models that I am most familiar / comfortable with.

    That changed when I ave this amp a run through. The variety of tones that are possible by adjusting the gain knob, guitar volume, and playing dynamics has blown me away. I have it paired with an IR from MBritt.

    Just goes to show that keeping an open mind is always a good thing.
     
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    Jace Nuzback Senior Member

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    For high gain tones I like the HBE and the 5051.
    For lower gain tones the Rumble Bright.
    For cleans the Deluxe.
    Jace
     
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    Plexi covers a lot of bases
     
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    there is literally no amp model in this thing that i havent found a great sounding preset made upon it. havent really used the power amp models much but if i had to choose one i would pick the arkhan
     
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    The Plexi is great and takes OD pedals very nicely. It cleans up well too.
    The Arkhan really has a unique character. It has this dark, chewy midrange thing
    that is really cool. It records beautifully and sounds great in a mix.
     
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    Kornfield. Currently using it for clean, crunch and lead patches, with an ir from the Redwirez demo pack (1960A / U87 / Cone 3in )
     
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    A/B on Amplifirebox most of the time:

    Deluxe for Clean with a Tubescreamer Boost
    Kornfield for Crunch with a Clean Boost for solos

    Both going through an Ownhammer Orange 2x12 Cab, mid boosted IR
     
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    I started out with Deluxe/Bassman for cleans and HBE for high gain based on the presets I liked (Fremen, Leon Todd & TAF). Then I got the CLR and started playing at gig volume and I'm almost exclusively using Jace's presets for Rumbles, Kornfield and Arkhan. Jace's presets seem to be less harsh, maybe its a tighter rolloff on the cabs? I don't have much time to mess around and found Jace's were better at high volume - particularly the Arkhan as it gets me closer to a warm Mastodon tone.
     
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    Kornfield is an absolute gem and I find the Hotbrit way easier to dial in than the BE for my hot rodded Marshall sounds. The BE and HBE are also capable of sounding great with some tweaking though. The Deluxe was my go to for cleans but the 65 Clean in the latest firmware is superb.
     
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    My two favorites are the 65 Clean and the Bassman

    I mostly run the 65 Clean with a JBL d120 2x12 IR and the Bassman with a Alnico Celestion 2x12 IR, so it sounds almost like an early Marshal.

    Numbers 3 and 4 on my list are the SLO and Plexi but I have spent little or no time trying to dial in the others so I can’t say I dislike any of them.
     
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    Slartibartfarst42 Well-Known Member

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    Like Dave, I find the Plexi covers an awful lot of ground and as Jace pointed out, it takes overdrive really well so there's really very little that can't be covered using this amp model. On that basis alone I'd say the Plexi has to be my favourite.

    For cleans I can't really see past the Twin. Perhaps I just got lucky in finding some presets for that amp model early on with my AmpliFire that I really like but I've always taken the view that if it ain't broke, don't fix it so I never bother looking at clean alternatives.

    Other models I like would be the Hot Brit, SLO, BE and HBE. There's something about the Kornfield that tells me I'm going to really love that one but so far I haven't come across a patch that quite hits the mark. I don't recall trying Jace's Kornfield patch so if anyone can post it here I'd be very grateful. Alternatively, if anyone else has a really good Kornfield patch, please post it here as I'd love to give it a try.

    There's not much I don't like about the AmpliFire as it's such an awesome piece of kit. Those I don't like are more down to my personal preferences. I never use models of a 5150, Rectifier or Arkhan as I find them too dark and just too OTT.

    As it stands I have just a handful of things I don't like about the AmpliFire, or at least I think warrants improvement:

    1) Effects are way too complicated so that 80-90% of what's there I just don't understand. If a top drawer boutique pedal can achieve its tone using just a few knobs, why on earth do effects on an AmpliFire need a billion different parameters to adjust?

    2) It really needs more boost options. I can live with just the Screamer and Overdrive options but when it comes to distortion, having just one option is poor. If I apply the Distortion pedal to a clean amp it goes to loads of distortion even with the gain on zero and it's a very thick, dark distortion so I have no way of choosing a different flavour of distortion. As a result of this limitation, these days I just set up patches with whatever level of distortion I want and leave it so none of my footswitches use the boost option. This is the first time in my life when I haven't had a boost option at my feet.

    3) A way of easily matching levels between patches.
     
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    I believe these are from Jace and I believe there may be more based on the numbering...
     

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    I found myself nodding in agreement to everything @Slartibartfarst42 said. Well, apart from the fact that I prefer the deluxe to the twin (post those clean twin presets please!)

    I use 3 models 99% of the time:
    Clean = Deluxe with stock cab/ir
    Crunch = Plexi with Ownhammer Basketweave GNR
    High gain = HBE with Ownhammer Basketweave GNR

    The Deluxe also works brilliantly with a Big Muff in front of it.

    I've had some success with the Kornfield model for mid gain stuff, but ultimately I preferred the Plexi.

    The output levels of the models are very different. E.g. if you switch from a 65 Twin to a Rumble Bright model you'd better have your ear plugs in. Doesn't bother me much these days as like I say I only ever really use 3 models, but it is an irritation which prevents me from experimenting with some of the other models.
     
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    I think it is more of an issue with the factory presets than with the models.

    Atomic should do themselves and their new customers a big favor and replace the stock presets in the next update. Jace knows what he is doing, so have him do 20-30 really good level matched presets that show off the latest firmware (no old excessive reverb settings). Even better, get Jay Mitchell to make a bunch of reflection free farfield IR’s too.
     
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    BE and HBE for me... Just pefect balance EQ wise, great character, can go from crunch and edge of breakup to serious saturation...
     
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    I have to agree with NickK, BE And HBE are my favorites. I play mostly classic rock and it's all there from the Stones, AC/DC, 80 and 90's, on into the 2000's... love those amps.
     
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    I've found it is the models themselves that have dramatically different levels - try opening a preset up and selecting several different amp models. You'll see what I mean.
     
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    Regarding your dislikes about the Amplifire.........the reason you get more parameters to adjust, as opposed to only 2 or 3 knobs as pedals have, is to give us all the ability to recreate the sound of almost any pedal out there which has an individual take on that effect. Much of what you hear from a boutique pedal is "built into the box" so to speak & narrowing say the Amplifire's chorus down to 2 or 3 parameters is going to give us the sound of one type of chorus pedal only, when we essentially have the option to recreate hundreds of different boutique chorus pedal's sounds with the parameters Atomic give us, remembering that what one user likes for a chorus sound another may prefer totally different.
    Sure, I do agree with you that so many parameters are daunting & confusing to begin with. Like anything though, you have to spend time playing around with said parameters to get the most out of these units & find what sounds best to you.
    There have been settings listed on this forum for individual effects parameters resembling well known brands of pedals, or you could go into the factory presets on the unit & find an effect you like the sound of then copy & paste the exact same parameters in your own presets.

    Matching patch levels can be done in the amp block with the amp volume level (not the master or global volume). There is no way you can accurately adjust patch volumes to be level via a meter or anything like that as these will change depending on what volume you are playing at. Playing at gig volume as opposed to with headphones on in your bedroom is going to be completely different & nothing quite exists in reality to easily & quickly set patch volumes to be equal other than using your ears.
     
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    AFB user here. I was using the Hot Brit and 800 models for ages, but I finally discovered the amazing Blackface tones in the Deluxe model. So now I'm exclusively running that, pushing it with various drives in front. It really hits that sweet spot of having a great base amp tone and also responding well to being hit with drives.

    Here's a quick little track I made last month - All guitar tones made with my MiM Telecaster into the Deluxe amp model with a couple of drives in front. No post-processing, eq, etc. Bass track is recorded with the SVTee model.

     
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    Would like to mention that the poweramps sound great with a drive in front. The feel is really good.
     
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